LSM: How did the connexion with Traffic happen? You’ve been featured in their videos for a long time, as early as "Via" over a decade ago. How did you first meet these guys? What was it like, first skating around with Ricky O? Was he already an influence of yours prior to meeting him? Interested in how your vision was shaped - you have a sharp eye for spots and quirky utilizations of them for city skating. Do you remember your first time meeting, and filming with Josh?
Mark: The connection with Traffic came about because of Jack Sabback and Rich Adler.
I was skating downtown everyday and was a regular at the spots. I guess I was doing alright, and when we would all get chased out of Love I started tagging along with those guys, lurking around, skating different shit. Rick was starting Traffic, and I think Rich and Jack said he should give me some boards.
Rich Adler, nosegrind up and down to fakie. Ph.: Yukihisa Nakamura courtesy of Secret Cut
I remember going to Ricky's house with my laptop and showing him my footage. I was so nervous and I kicked the plug and sent the computer flying off of the table. He liked my stuff, and sent me on my way with some boards.
I would only see Ricky around the city. He would come into Love or City Hall and you could tell he was already at it for a bit. He would blaze around the park for a bit, but then be gone.
"Rick does a wallie feeble and I did a wallie back tail; I don't think they used my clip though [laughs]"
Ry Manos was a friend of mine and he had started filming Ricky, Jack, Damian [Smith], and Rich. So, I would tag along with them, but I was comfortable with Ry enough to drag him off on my own missions. I think Traffic's team was still kind of forming at this time, but when it came time to edit "Via", I had a bunch of tricks and was part of the crew so it just worked out. Ended up with the first part!
First time I skated with Rick, other then just ending up at the same spot, was on this makeshift quarterpipe that I made out of a broken refrigerator. We both filmed a trick on it. I think that session helped me get on. Rick does a wallie feeble and I did a wallie back tail. I don't think they used my clip though [laughs]!
Ricky Oyola, back tail as seen in Mark's "Look Left" part. Ph.: Rich Adler courtesy of Skate Jawn
LSM: Back in 2008, you even shared a section in a video made by our friends from Italy, René Olivo and Diego Dominguez aka. the Chef family called "Nothing Compares", with the likes of Guru Khalsa, Tim O’Connor and Steve Durante. On which occasion did this happen? How many times have you been to Europe, and how different from what you’re used to was it skating here?
Mark: That connection is because of Andrew Petillo and Steve Durante.
After college, I saved up money and was going to move to Spain, to teach English. Really, I was moving to live in Barcelona and skate the amazing spots, but it ended up that I couldn't afford to pay off my loans and live out there off of that job. So, I just spent all the money I had saved up and maxed out a credit card, until I really had no money left.
"A bunch of my clips for 'Static 2' were from that little week in Italy"
I had known Steve and Andrew from seeing them around Jersey, but we were not close. Somebody gave me their number to link up with them when they came out. We hit it off well, and they asked me if I wanted to go to Italy with them. They knew René from a previous trip and were going to stay with those guys.
That was so much fun! We went on a little road trip around Italy, met a bunch of great people, and we filmed a bunch of stuff. A bunch of my clips for "Static 2" were from that little week in Italy. Coming from Philly, which had a very cliquey skate scene at the time, it was cool to see a closer community of skaters out there. In Philly, there were a bunch of different crews and everybody kind of did their own thing. Those Chef guys had a tight knit crew of friends who seemed like they did everything together. That was refreshing to see.
Click on this 16mm portrait by Josh Stewart to see Mark's part in "Static IV"
LSM: What was the filming process like, for "Static IV"? The Static series was fully established as a pillar of the underground scene at that point, and a lot of people were anticipating the new installment. Was filming for a new Static film a source of extra pressure, or motivation, or are you of the type to just skate and whatever happens happens?
Mark: Running into Josh one day into the city, he told me that if I filmed tricks for the video, he would use whatever I had. I was a big fan of what he does, and was not going to let that opportunity pass me up.
It was over a long period of time, but it was not something that was a main priority in my life. I feel like a lot of people have a similar story about filming for that video. And, I think that is why the video does a good job of capturing the way that all those guys actually skate.
I had a full-time job, a little business that I was starting, bought an old house to fix up, and was not on the mission daily, weekly or even monthly at times. My parents lived on the coast in Jersey, and their house got demolished in Hurricane Sandy. Two feet of water in their first floor meant that the house needed to be almost completely gutted and raised about four feet. My dad and I did a lot of the work and I hardly skated for about eight months. I do not think I even tried to film a trick for over a year while the "filming" for "Static IV" was going down.
"If I got a clip, there was a place that it was going. And, into a video that was definitely going to be a classic"
I was working in Jersey City at the time, which is right across the river from Manhattan, and had about an hour and fifteen minute commute home. I would often take the train into the city, or skate in Jersey City before heading home to avoid the commuter traffic. Sometimes I would just lurk around for a few hours alone. Other days, I would end up finding something I wanted to skate and would call up Josh to link up. This sometimes turned into me skating until two or three in the morning!
The first "Static" was the first one that I saw. Pretty sure a friend had it, and probably got it from Sub Zero on one of our Philly trips. Videos were not nearly accessible as they are now, and we probably dubbed copies of it for each other.
Josh telling me that he would use my footage was definitely motivating. It meant that what I was doing must have been special in some way. It also gave me a project to work on. If I got a clip, there was a place that it was going. And, into a video that was definitely going to be a classic. So, I really just did my own thing, but made more NYC trips at the time because I knew I could link up with Josh if I had something to film.
Click to watch Mark's super good Traffic Report from 2010.
LSM: Your spot selection is always impressive, watching your video parts feels like you’re going through a list of spots you had found by yourself and backlogged until the right time and occasion to go film something smart at them. Do you enjoy spot hunting?
How much of your time would you say you devote to looking for new spots and what is your preferred mode to achieve such a process - skating around, driving, walking maybe? Have you ever used Google Maps to find something to skate (the idea might or might not sound a bit corny, but I know of a few people who are such serious spot hunters that they organize Google map screenshots by hundreds in dozens of folders on their hard drives)?
Mark: Thanks! You're pretty spot on.
I usually find a spot or figure out a way to skate something just being out skating with friends. And, then If I want to film it, I have to sit on it till I can drag someone with a camera there.
"The best shit usually happens spontaneously"
If one of the poor bastards that get stuck filming me are around, I most likely have an idea to try and get a clip. Back in Traffic "Via" days, or for "Static 3" there was usually a filmer in the group of friends out skating so it would happen more naturally.
After that, it got a lot harder because I really had to plan stuff out more. And, that right there fucks everything up. The best shit usually happens spontaneously. I love looking for new spots and driving around different neighborhoods. But, I don't have that much free time these days so in my time I just want to get on my board wherever and have some fun. I am not combing the streets on Google Maps, that is for sure.
LSM: Your take on ledge skating is also intriguing, it’s got a unique touch to it. Doesn’t go overboard with the typical skatepark-styled flip-in flip-out, yet retains real difficulty, as well as some refreshing awkwardness, and a lot of your moves remind me of late eighties / early nineties classic curb / plaza ledge skating (think Armando Barajas meets Pepe Martinez) rather than of the more recent trends in ledge dancing. How often do you think of new combinations? For instance, how did the idea for that backside 360 out of 50-50 mid-ledge in that old Traffic Report come about (alley-oop 180’s out of grinds weren’t even as much of a trend back then)? Who would you say are your favorite ledge skaters of all-time?
Mark: I was always into guys that did innovative or just different ledge tricks. Tim O'Connor, Guy Mariano, and Marc Johnson always did ledge tricks that you did not see anybody else doing. It would be difficult, but the fact that they thought to do it, had a difficulty as well. Those guys did original shit. They were not impersonating something they already saw, they were making something for others to impersonate.
I liked that about their skating, and I guess it made me want to find my own original tricks. Plus, I ain't flipping in and out of anything - wish I could. The front 50-50 backside 180 out is about as nineties east coast as it gets, to me. I love how that trick feels and I guess I just thought: "what about a full back 360, nobody has ever done that?".
Click to watch "Traffic Patterns" feat. Ricky Oyola, Mark Wetzel and more, edited by Joe Bressler.
Favorite ledge skaters - Guy Mariano, Tim O'Connor, Matt Reason - he made tech ledge skating look more aggressive then anybody. Tim Achille was king of doing the alley-oop style, awkward ledge tricks; and Marc Johnson always had a unique ledge approach.
LSM: What was it like filming for the new Traffic video, "Look Left"? Was most of the footage filmed by Josh? How much of it is in NJ? What did you have (and more generally, what do you have) going on on the side, besides skateboarding - day job, family life perhaps? Is working on video parts like this still fulfilling to you, do you have a vision of what a good skate part is that you really try to achieve every time or are you more relaxed, just skating whenever you can make some time and whatever gets documented gets documented?